Atonists can't dance, and maybe E.L. Doctorow can't either

  Both Mumbo Jumbo and Ragtime depict the experience of African Americans in the early 20th century. Mumbo Jumbo centers around the way white people understand and interact with African culture. Ragtime focuses more on the general climate of the early 20th century, but the plot centers around race relations and a black man struggling with the oppression he faces. An important detail to note: E.L. Doctorow is white, and Ishmael Reed is black. Is Ragtime a manifestation of the exact relationship Reed aims to expose?

While Ragtime does an exquisite job of creating a nuanced character in Coalhouse Walker, he and his followers do feed into common stereotypes of black people, especially if you consider the time in which E.L Doctorow wrote the piece. Mumbo Jumbo highlights the way that African Americans and especially their culture gets written off in various ways: people tend to denounce that which they don’t understand. E.L. Doctorow is attempting to write a story centered around an experience he doesn’t have. This, in and of itself, begs the same questions which linger in Mumbo Jumbo: to what extent can white people interact with African culture before its steps into appropriation?

E.L. Doctorow uses the era of Ragtime to breathe life into his novel. The same era which is highlighted in Mumbo Jumbo as a brief and “unsuccessful” manifestation of Jes Grew. Doctorow and Reed both focus on culture eras, but their view on them differs drastically. In both works culture affects the masses, but in Mumbo Jumbo it feels more soulful and authentic. Ragtime uses Ragtime as more of a tool of description and almost a means to an end. Mumbo Jumbo uses jes grew to paint a vivid and unflinching picture of culture and humanity. We see Ragtime more so through Mother’s Younger brother and his interaction with black culture, instead of truly getting a sense of the music’s origins and heart. We never fail to feel the effects and nature of Jes Grew through each form it takes in the novel and beyond.


Is Mother’s Younger Brother a talking android? Doctorow, while never failing to highlight the irony, awards more respect to Mother’s Younger Brother in his near minstrel show performance. Reed does not give almost any respect to the talking android or more importantly Hinkle Von Vampton. Mother’s Younger Brother is a much more realistic example of a talking android: he may truly believe in the cause, but he has no real life experience to back it up and his participation inherently undermines the message and motivations behind Coalhouse. Doctorow, at least in my interpretation, wants us to see that in some way Mother’s Younger Brother found his purpose in this performance. Reed would almost surely see this situation in a much more critical way. The talking android and Hinkle Von Vampton illustrate the more sinister nature of cultural appropriation which is lacking from Mother’s Younger Brother. The talking android is unable to assimilate in any genuine way to the culture of the Harlem renaissance, because the real art is personal and he is disingenuous. Mother’s Younger Brother gives us a window into Coalhouse which Doctorow better understands.


It is astounding how different such a similar archetype of character could be depicted. Coalhouse Walker is resilient and passionate (and a musician) just like Papa LaBas, his team, and more importantly the musicians and poets who, overcome with Jes Grew, formed the revolution known as the Harlem renaissance. Why is it that the way Coalhouse interacts with his art, and ultimately his method of protest against oppression, is so different from similar depictions in Mumbo Jumbo? E.L. Doctorow tells his story from the view of a middle-class white family. This could be viewed as an intentional decision to illustrate the disparities between races in the era, and maybe it is, but Doctorow simply is unable to capture the same spirit Reed does. Coalhouse Walker is angry and violent, and Jes Grew is life itself. Is that simply because Doctorow wanted to tell a story dripping in revenge and rebellion, or does it show his underlying bias in his interpretation of black people?


This whole comparison forces us to question whether or not we think it is appropriate for white artists to tell black stories. Of course it would be wrong for white artists to entirely omit cultures which they don’t understand or partake in, but, as illustrated in Mumbo Jumbo, it is often the addition of white voices into a black conversation which dilutes the vital message. I’m not saying that E.L. Doctorow is a talking android by any means; however, I think it is important to inspect how race and lived experience play into an author’s choices.


“Write what you know”. It is impossible to write a novel without infusing one’s own beliefs and life into it. Doctorow may tell the story of a black man which is compelling on the surface  but upon further inspection is ultimately Euro-centric. In many ways Ragtime is the antithesis of Mumbo Jumbo. They both aim to retell history, and highlight its shortcomings. But Ragtime fails to truly give a voice to the minority which it revolves around, and Mumbo Jumbo not only shows an Afro-centric interpretation of history, but inspires culture beyond the confines of just one group or culture. Maybe this is just what Ishmael Reed meant when he wrote that Atonists could not dance.

Comments

  1. Hi Olly! what. an. inspiring. blog! I love how you exposed Ragtime's underlying Eurocentric bias. I agree with you that Doctorow's depiction of Coalhouse being violent and sanguinary appears very stereotypical. However, I also feel like this could be his deliberate commentary on how early 20th-century America's systemic oppression leaves no space for peaceful protest, and the rise of Coalhouse as a revolutionary leader is somehow heroic (?) I also think that Doctorow acknowledges your point on how he, as a white author, can never accurately represent black experience. He is always very careful in the depiction of Coalhouse: readers see he goes in depth on crafting irony and thoughts of white characters (ex. Ford and Morgan), but barely any for Coalhouse.

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  2. Hi Olly, I definitely did see Mother's Younger Brother as an example of a talking android. I think it's interesting to consider if Doctorow is also a talking android as he is writing about an experience that he couldn't possibly relate to. In a way it's pretty meta with Doctorow critiquing how Mother's Younger Brother feels so moved for something he can't understand while he himself is writing about an experience that he doesn't get. I definitely believe that Eurocentrism was injected into Ragtime not because it was intentional but just because that's how many of us were taught.

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  3. Hi Olly! I completely agree with you that Ragtime is Euro-centric. Though, I had thought the books were trying to bring up different questions; while Mumbo Jumbo talks about culture and the spread of art, Ragtime asks about the necessity of violence against oppressive systems. I think Mother's Younger Brother is an insane character written with possibly too much sympathy and Doctorow's biases are inevitable, but it might not follow the same pattern that Hinkle Von Vampton's Talking Androids do. Ragtime's Coalhouse story arc is not perceived as African American art but as a euro-centric discussion of revolutionary violence. I would never have combined these two books without your blog post though and I think I need to look at these books with more awareness for bias as well!

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  4. Hey Olly! First of all, kudos for writing a blog connecting Ragtime and Mumbo Jumbo. I think that your quote "Write what you know" is so true. There are so many examples of what Doctorow and Reed want and believe. Reed is the more nuanced writer who supports cultural change but Doctorow, maybe not as much. In his novel, a black man is acting through violence for most of the novel which I think says a lot. I think a lot of this goes back to the Eurocentric view and the Afrocentric view. You know what'd be really cool, is if these were both mythical 'texts'; Reeds obviously boosting Jes Grew and Doctorows suppressing it? Literature and it's perspectives played an obvious role in determining Jes Grews fate. Overall really good job!

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  5. First, I have to cross-reference Brianna's blog post on Coalhouse Walker from the eighth-period section, as it anticipates some of the critical points you make here: https://blgibson27.blogspot.com/2025/09/ragtime-black-misfortune-and.html.

    This is a fascinating and provocative way to juxtapose Reed and Doctorow, and you make a number of compelling points about how Doctorow "uses" ragtime music and culture quite differently from how Reed depicts it in his novel--the Coalhouse narrative is always experienced at a bit of a remove, precisely because our "lens" on the story is through the New Rochelle family. I really wanted to get into this stuff in more detail in class, but I actually see a good deal of self-awareness on Doctorow's part, in his depiction of Coalhouse and his experience--much more self-awareness than some other white writers of his generation have demonstrated. When Doctorow's narrator resorts to qualifiers like "apparently" to narrate Coalhouse responding to the racist harassment, this could be a reflection of his unwillingness to try to narrate "from" Coalhouse's interior perspective, which would presume to know something about what he is feeling and experiencing. We see a similar moment of self-awareness around MYB trying to "use" the ruined car to stoke his own rage, and realizing that what he feels must only be a small fraction of what Coalhouse is feeling.

    And with MYB in mind, the obvious parallel in _Mumbo Jumbo_ would be Thor Wintergreen, the white member of the Mu'tafikah who is left to guard Biff Musclewhite over the strenuous objections of Jose Fuentes. While MYB remains an ambiguous figure who is surely a poseur to some extent, but also who sticks to his guns and shows his commitment to the Coalhouse cause, with his blackface costume an "ironic" commentary, a kind of shared joke with the other members, rather than (solely) the author's depiction of him as appropriating a cause that is not his own. There's no such ambiguity with Thor--this guy folds after about five minutes of Biff extolling the virtues of Western civilization, and in general Reed seems a LOT less sanguine about the possibility for true commitment from a white radical. (And again, this topic was a live and controversial issue at the time, so the immediate present-day context would be clear to most readers.)

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  6. Hi Olly! This is a really interesting connection between Ragtime and Mumbo Jumbo that I completely didn't notice before. Now that I think about it, I definitely think Reed makes a more compelling argument about race, while EL Doctorow is more focused on just being an interesting novel. While there are themes of social change in Ragtime, there isn't a big thesis like in Mumbo Jumbo - that authentic culture persists. I agree that it's because Doctorow is attempting to describe an experience he hasn't had that his novel doesn't have the same power. Good work!

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  7. Thinking of Mother's Younger Brother as the Talking Android is a spectacular connection between Ragtime and Mumbo Jumbo that I never thought of before! Like the Android, both put on a blackface costume to attempt to push the ideas of a group of radicals, but the big difference is whose ideas they support. In Ragtime, that group is Coalhouse's gang and MYB, their "Talking Android," apparently supports Afrocentric goals, while in Mumbo Jumbo that group is a small selection of Atonists and former Knights Templar, and their Talking Android is Hubert "Safecracker" Gould, who attempts to subtly destroy Jes Grew from the inside. Your comparison between the overall Afrocentric and Eurocentric perspectives of Reed and Doctorow also makes the reasons for these differences clearer.

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  8. Hi Olly! I never thought of Mother's Younger Brother as the Taking Android and you did a really good job of putting your thoughts into words. I especially like how you connect the idea of “Atonists can’t dance” to the larger question of cultural authenticity. I enjoyed reading this!

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  9. Hey Olly! Okay so you literally blew the boots house down with this blog post. I really love your connection between Ragtime and Mumbo Jumbo. It is interesting to think that Mothers Younger Brother and the Talking Android are at all similar. I appreciated your distinction between Reed's afro-centric storytelling and Doctorow's euro-centric storytelling, which emphasizes how an author's background can influence their ideas/portrayal surrounding culture. GOOD JOB!

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  10. Hey Olly! In class we didn't go deep in comparing and contrasting Mumbo Jumbo and Ragtime, and I think you brought up a fascinating viewpoint of Mother's Younger Brother being the Talking Android. The two separate uses of black face to support radical groups of people (although supporting afrocentric vs. Eurocentric goals) is very intriguing when juxtaposed with each other. Thanks for your blog, it was very thought provoking!

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